[Mono-dev] SPAM-LOW: Re: Running .net appliation from mac

[Timothy Smith]

I had sent this originally to Steve directly, but I thought I would post it
here to as the conversation has continued (and probably should end here as
it is off the purpose of the list)

"Sorry if that sounded a bit harsh.

The open source community gets requests like that all of the time and there
are segments of the industry that do not understand how this works and/or
blindly reuse what others have done without a clue how many hours they have
saved.... So after spending some time developing OSS myself, it can feel
thankless. (NDoc new development ended due to this exact reason)

Anyways, I actually have a team of 15 resources in India (that we outsource
to our clients) and we deal with this on a daily basis - we try to stress
communication skills and electronic message etiquette."

So regardless of translation, I believe requests for help should have a tone
of "thankfulness".

I apologize for being so blunt and not taking my own advice ;)

Ok, back to creating good software that allows us to get our jobs done :)

Tim


On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Charlie Poole <charlie at nunit.com> wrote:

> Hi Andreas,
>
> I'm not sure how much we want to go into this but...
>
> Some cultures use little words like please, others rely
> on non-verbal cues. Some people use automatic translation,
> while others use their own skills.
>
> The OP was considered "rude" because he used an imperative
> construct, rather than asking a question. The reply did
> exactly the same thing. He didn't say "please" - neither
> did the reply. Maybe that was deliberate irony, but it
> came across to me as merely being unnecessarily harsh.
> The poster will have to be very brave to try again.
>
> If we want to encourage certain ways of communicating, I
> strongly believe we have to model them.
>
> As far as Nabble goes, I'm with you. I use mail lists
> rather than online forums because I'm often disconnected.
> Typical Nabble responses don't include any context unless
> you go to the site.
>
> Charlie
>
> > Am 16.12.2008 um 16:33 schrieb Steve Bjorg:
> >
> > > Did it not occur to you that English might not be the
> > poster's native
> > > language?
> >
> > Even Google can translate "please" correctly afaihs.
> >
> > Nabble has significantly drowned the quality of the Mono
> > mailing lists with such unprofessional two-line posts without
> > proper name below (and a stupid signature that has no meaning
> > other than to enlarge Nabble.com's Page Rank). That's not a
> > question of language. I rarely still read Mono-list or
> > Mono-osx due to this unfortunate phenomenon, but the
> > offending message is on Mono-dev, where such a newbie
> > question certainly is wrong.
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> > Linked from the main page: http://mono-project.com/Start
> > also: http://www.mono-project.com/Guide:Running_Mono_Applications
> >
> > >
> > > - Steve
> > >
> > > --------------
> > > Steve G. Bjorg
> > > http://mindtouch.com
> > > http://twitter.com/bjorg
> > >
> > > On Dec 16, 2008, at 6:49 AM, Timothy Smith wrote:
> > >
> > >> First trying adding "please" to your requests and maybe pose your
> > >> request as a question. The mono contributors work hard to
> > make any of
> > >> this happen!
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:07 AM, Jayaganesan
> > >> <jayashree at extolutionind.com
> > >> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi, I have developed an windows application using .net
> > 3.5, I need to
> > >> run this application from a mac machine. Let me know how
> > to achieve
> > >> do this...
> > >> --
> > >> View this message in context: [...]
> > >> Sent from the Mono - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > >>
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