[Mono-dev] Silverlight/Moonlight questions

[Rolf Bjarne Kvinge]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mono-devel-list-bounces at lists.ximian.com [mailto:mono-devel-list-
> bounces at lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of "Andrés G. Aragoneses [ knocte
> ]"
> Sent: viernes, 19 de octubre de 2007 10:27
> To: mono-devel-list at lists.ximian.com
> Subject: Re: [Mono-dev] Silverlight/Moonlight questions
> 
> 2 more questions and we finish! :)
> 
> Rolf Bjarne Kvinge escribió:
> >> Thanks again Rolf, and Miguel. Now my ideas are much clearer.
> >>
> >> Just some more: :)
> >>
> >> Rolf Bjarne Kvinge escribió:
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> - As you guys have managed to make widgets for the desktop using
> >>>>>> Moonlight, could this be done also with Silverlight?
> >>>>> I think so yes.
> >>>>> There are Vista gadgets done with Silverlight somewhere.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> If yes, how one
> >>>>>> could do that from a normal .NET application that could call a
> >>>>>> Silverlight widget?
> >>>>> I have no idea how the Vista gadgets are made, but one idea is to
> >> use
> >>>>> the System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowser to embed a browser inside a
> >>>> desktop app.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hugh, but why launching whole browser core just to show a
> >> Silverlight
> >>>> widget?
> >>> Maybe because there's no other way?
> >> Well, the other way is calling it as a native library as you just
> said
> >> LunarEclipse is doing, right?
> >>
> >
> > Just that the native Silverlight API is not public nor documented.
> 
> Jikes! Is this likely going to change in the future? Maybe by a new
> managed API that moonlight could mimic? (1.2 version? am I dreaming?)

You'd have to MS about that.
I doubt they will make it public / document it though.
 
> 
> 
> >>> [...]
> >>> Lunareclipse uses pinvokes to call into moonlight, and that part
> >> isn't
> >>> portable.
> >> A pity then. If Moonlight had the same native API as Silverlight, I
> >> guess this would be portable (I mean, in Windows LunarEclipse could
> use
> >> Silverlight instead of Moonlight), right?
> >>
> >
> > As I just mentioned, the native Silverlight API is not public nor
> > documented, so this would be difficult.
> >
> >
> >>>>>> Or from a .NET application?
> >>>>>> I ask this because, as I understand, Silverlight CLR runs in a
> >>>> Sandbox and thus it should not allow to write/read from disk, so
> >> then how
> >>>> can anyone save the contents made by lunareclipse in the home
> >> directory
> >>>> or whenever on the local computer?
> >>>>> It is a .NET application already.
> >>>> Then, how this .NET application launches a Silverlight widget?
> >>>>
> >>> Lunareclipse uses moonlight (which is just a native library) to
> draw
> >> the
> >>> xaml in a window. That's all there is to it actually.
> >> Is MS Silverlight also a native library like Moonlight?
> > Yes, it is.
> >
> >> Doesn't it have
> >> a managed API to be consumed by managed programs in order to use it
> >> outside of a browser?
> >>
> > No.
> 
> Then, how are Vista Silverlight gadgets developed? Looking at some
> links
> (for example [1], found by [2]) it seems like they use kind of a
> "silverlight control". Probably I'm missing something (I should hack a
> bit before asking dumb questions sorry...).
> 
>From a quick look at the links looks like Vista gadgets can actually be a
webpage, so there's nothing really special about it (Silverlight-wise).

Rolf

> [1]
> http://blogs.msdn.com/knom/archive/2007/08/08/silverlight-1-1-updates-
> on-vista-gadgets.aspx
> [2]
> http://www.google.com/search?q=vista+gadget+silverlight&ie=utf-
> 8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:es-ES:official&client=firefox-a
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 	Andrés	[ knocte ]
> 
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