[Mono-dev] Debugger on Windows

pablosantosluac pablosantosluac at terra.es
Thu May 10 10:43:20 EDT 2007


Hi folks,

Well, IMHO what we all DO need is a decent debugger on Linux. If I just had 
a debugger I would start developing with MonoDevelop today on Linux, and I 
guess most people would do the same.... Then we would be all day testing 
MonoDevelop, the compiler, the debugger and so on and so on... And this IS 
GOOD for Mono, much better than having some sort of replacement on Windows.

By the way porting an app to Linux will take some effort, ok, but what Mono 
gives is a real opportunity to do it and still develop with C#, the 
framework and so on... which is great! C# and the entire framework is IMHO 
the best development platform ever... let's have it on Linux with the only 
big piece is missing... a debugger!!

I agree having it on Windows would help, but please... first on Linux!

--pablo


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Morgan" <monodanmorg at yahoo.com>
To: "Jonathan Chambers" <joncham at gmail.com>; "mono-devel" 
<mono-devel-list at lists.ximian.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Mono-dev] Debugger on Windows


>I have to agree with Jonathan.  Mono on Windows is a
> good way to see if a MS .NET app will work on Mono.
>
> This is especially true for windows developers who are
> not familiar with Linux but who would like to see
> their application or web site running on Linux.
>
> If they see it running on Mono on Windows, they may
> feel more confident to installing linux or a
> downloading the suse vm and try their app there.
>
> --- Jonathan Chambers <joncham at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm sending a catch all email to try and get some
>> information on being able
>> to use the mono debugger on windows. I'll give some
>> motivation first (based
>> on where I work). Generally, people using .Net will
>> work on Windows. They'll
>> then try their program on mono on Windows to verify
>> that their program runs.
>> If they have a problem, there is currently two
>> approaches it seems:
>>
>> 1) Add Console.WriteLine's to their program and
>> hopefully track down the
>> problem
>> 2) Try bringing their app to Linux and debugging
>> there
>>
>> 1 is painful especially when coming from a Visual
>> Studio background. 2
>> requires the user to have a Linux box or VMWare
>> image handy. They must also
>> be adept enough to get the environment setup to
>> debug. I think they'll have
>> to either convert their pdb files to mdb format, or
>> build app on mono. Both
>> of these is a non-trivial amount of effort for a new
>> mono user (and maybe
>> even for me ;-)).
>>
>> So, I'm investigating adding a third option, 3)
>> Debugging mono on Windows.
>> I'll just ask a couple of questions.
>>
>> 1) What work is needed to get the debugger working
>> on managed code compiled
>> by mono on windows?
>> 2) Is 1) possible without adding support for native
>> debugging (I assume
>> adding support for native/mixed mode debugging will
>> take more effort)
>> 3) What about formats? If I am on windows, I have
>> probably compiled by
>> managed code and my native code in VS (not mono and
>> gcc). The managed code
>> debugging info can be converted between formats
>> AFAIK, but the unmanaged
>> would be more difficult assuming that would even be
>> attempted. MS provides
>> debugging APIs, but I have no clue whether they
>> could be wrapped and adapted
>> to mono debugger.
>> 4) Exposure I assume would be command line -> some
>> sort of IDE
>> (Sharpdevelop, MonoDevelop, or just a quick and
>> dirty Winforms UI for
>> debugging not a full featured IDE) -> the ultimate
>> would be integration into
>> VS with a "Debug with mono" option.
>>
>> I'm sure I'll get enough info from those questions
>> to start with. The only
>> other question I'll ask is, Is this worth the
>> effort? Since I don't know the
>> effort required, I currently think it's worth it
>> ;-). If it's not I'll
>> forget the idea and hack on something else.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jonathan
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