[Mono-dev] VMWare machine, monodevelop, and some thoughts
Carlos J. Muentes
carlos at rockwithme.org
Fri Aug 25 15:24:48 EDT 2006
I agree, I think a debugger is essential in not only adaptation, but
decreasing development time and decreasing time-to-market. Problem is,
there are a ton of things MD needs right now like:
- Debugger
- SCM integration
- More deployment options
- Support for all language features implemented in mono (like generics)
So which one is more important? My boss always says when everything's
important, nothing is. Microsoft has yet to release a version of the
.NET Framework without an associated version of Visual Studio.NET. It
would be nice to see a release cycle like this in the mono community,
where a new version of the runtime is released either along with an
accompanying version of MD, or new version of MD is released a short
time later to update all language features. I would love to work on
MD/Linux full-time here, but we're stuck because those small number of
features that exist in VS.NET completely kill the case for MD right
now.
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [Mono-dev] VMWare machine, monodevelop, and some thoughts
> From: "pablosantosluac" <pablosantosluac at terra.es>
> Date: Fri, August 25, 2006 1:42 pm
> To: <mono-devel-list at lists.ximian.com>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have just downloaded the vmware machine, and I liked the appearance of the
> monodevelop application. We are currently trying to finish our user
> interface built on Windows Forms, adapting from Windows, and I liked the
> monodevelop looks much more.
>
> Still, our project is about 100K c# loc, and we would really like to develop
> on Linux, because we really want to support the platform. Developing on
> Windows and testing on both platforms is what we have been doing for months
> but, is not the same as having some developers working on Linux (plus, some
> of us would really like to work with another OS).
>
> Our problem: we don't have a proper debugger. We wanted to move to Xdevelop,
> but constant debugger changes make debugging on Linux almost impossible.
>
> So, how do you guys manage to develop on Linux. I mean, not having a
> debugger has a deep impact in the development, everything gets slower. It
> would be great having one. Is it installed by default with monodevelop on
> the VMWare machine? I didn't find it.
>
> IMHO having a strong debugger, integrated with a strong IDE (even Eclipse),
> would really boost Mono adoption. Ok, you guys know better, just what I
> think. Mono/.NET is the best development technology I know (and I was really
> reluctant at the beginning). Only remoting gives power to build great
> software, and performance is very good too (remind COM :-( ). Even not
> having reached 1.2, functionallity is wide enough to build full functional
> systems. Adding functionality, again IMHO, shouldn't be a concern. So, I'm
> sure debugger/IDE (and again taking a strong one could be the way to go, and
> not reinventing the wheel), would be a huge step ahead.
>
> pablo
>
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