Fwd: [Mono-devel-list] How can Mono Existing if WinFX, Avalon, Indigio and Aero comes up with Longhorn and WinXP?

[Todd Berman]

Sorry to give this reply, as it is a bit puerile, but please dude, use a
spell checker. It is very difficult to attempt to discuss anything with
you when your English is basically impossible to read.

--Todd

On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 18:38 +0200, falkmilan at yahoo.de wrote:
> Hi Simon,
> 
> I undestand your Point of View and i dont wanna compare Java and Mono.
> I think the discussion started wrong up. I think, if Mono walks more 
> idependant iit
> is the better Solutions as trying to rewriting Code Monocode thadt was 
> developed
> by Microsoft.
> 
> A Mono with a VM Technology, thadt run independently on the most Target
> Paltform has greater Advantages and a better overall Situation.
> 
> Falk
> 
> Simon Bain wrote:
> 
> > Falk hi.
> >
> > I am very impressed that you have made time to do so much research. 
> > However the point remains that people in this newsgroup, are at this 
> > moment interested generaly (big assumption sorry people) in discussion 
> > about development with Mono.
> >
> > This is not to say that your discussion is not of interest, as I am 
> > sure that their are poeple out there that will find it of interest. 
> > But as you can see from the replies this is not the group. If you wish 
> > to compare Sun and Novell then find another group, if you wish to 
> > compare Java with C# I know that there are plenty of groups out there 
> > doing just that. (Take a look at the borland newsgroups).
> >
> > However here as I have said generally people are looking to either
> > Solve bug issues (yes there are some and the developers seem to be 
> > very willing to admit it)
> > Get help with coding issues
> > Get help with XSP
> > and other application development items.
> >
> > All the best and if I see a post on another group by you on the issues 
> > of Where can Mono go, or Java vs C# or ... Then I will gladly take 
> > them head on.
> >
> > Simon
> > -- 
> > Simon Bain
> > TENdotZERO
> > ----------
> > XML Open Conference Speaker:- Data Integration with XML and Mono
> > http://www.xmlopen.org
> > ----------
> > XML 2004 Conference Speaker:- e-Voting
> > http://www.xmlconference.org/xmlusa/
> >
> > > Oh what iam reading on the Mono Roadmap an go-mono
> > >
> > >
> > > Mono and WinFX: 2006
> > >
> > > WinFX is the name given to the new set of libraries that makes up .NET
> > > in the Longhorn operating system: the existing .NET set of class
> > > libraries, plus the new functionality available in the OS.
> > >
> > > WinFX adds things like storage facilities (WinFS), a new versatile
> > > communications stack (Indigo) and a new eye-candy packed GUI 
> > programming
> > > system (Avalon).
> > >
> > > Although WinFS, Avalon and Indigo are very exciting components, at this
> > > time it is too early to tell when those components will be available 
> > for
> > > Mono. Open source developers will very likely start work on these, but
> > > since they are still far from being officially released, they are 
> > not in
> > > the radar at this point.
> > >
> > > Source:
> > > http://www.go-mono.com/mono-roadmap.html
> > >
> > > I think is Time to wake up.
> > >
> > > Falk
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Bailo wrote:
> > >
> > >>On Sunday 12 September 2004 05:59, falkmilan at yahoo.de wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Hi Monofolks,
> > >>>
> > >>>In the Last Days i hve reading some Microsoft stuff about, chaning
> > >>>WinForms to the new
> > >>>managed Code API called WinFX. WinFX includes an .NET Managed 
> > Windowing
> > >>>Toolkit and
> > >>>WinForms will be deprecated in Future (there are Statements on the
> > >>>WinHEC thadt Microsoft takes
> > >>>care for a Interoperatibility, but i dont know...).
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>Well, you should read more recent news. WinFX has been scraped because
> > >> M$ can
> > >>barely get LongWait out the door.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>The New GUI Windowing System is based on XML (a Subinterpreation 
> > called
> > >>>XAML) and should
> > >>>allow more seamless Things between Documents and Application 
> > Windows or
> > >>>something like thadt.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>We heard it all before.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>WinFX is integrated into Longhorn and it can be installed to WinFX and
> > >>>is Microsoft longterm
> > >>>Plan for .NET and Windows together (i think it is clear why they are
> > >>>doing thadt, to bring trouble
> > >>>to Mono)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>mono comes with the Suse distro. Novell could easily integrate mono.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Anyway, the .NET Runtim and many Things from Longhorn would be
> > >>>rewritten from C/C++ to C#
> > >>>and Managed Code. The .NET Runtime will be a integrated Component
> > >>>inside the Operatingsystem
> > >>>and any other Programms should based ont it.
> > >>>
> > >>>I dont know what is up with the Win32-API but it looks like, thadt
> > >>>Microsoft will the Support cuttof after a Time.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>Basically Microsoft realizes it has a garbage OS and is trying to 
> > make it
> > >> as
> > >>much like Linux as possible.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>The Webbrowser Internet Explorer will also as Webcomponets fully
> > >>>integrated with
> > >>>Windows Longhorn.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>How much did Steve Ballmer pay you to write this email ?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>ps:
> > >>>I think MS will go on and make the Next Visual Studuio Version a 
> > Mix of
> > >>>WinFX and other
> > >>>Longhorn Technologies.If this comes true, then it cannot be run on 
> > Mono.
> > >>>The Only way is, to
> > >>>cover the complete WinFX API with all Sub API thadt are Close Source.
> > >>>
> > >>>Falk
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>Is that Falk, or Fake ?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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