[Mono-devel-list] Re: [Gtk-sharp-list] kernel support.

[Carlos Perelló Marín]

El mié, 18-06-2003 a las 11:29, Dag Wieers escribió:
> On 18 Jun 2003, Carlos [ISO-8859-1] Perelló Marín wrote:
> 
> > El mar, 17-06-2003 a las 23:46, Dag Wieers escribió:
> > > Ok, now try to convince Red Hat, SuSE, TurboLinux, Mandrake, Lindows to 
> > > fix their packages and release updates to their wine package now. 
> > > 
> > > And I'm sure you can overwrite what other packages do, but that's not a 
> > > real clean solution and you may not have control what an upgrade will do.
> > > 
> > 
> > I think that the solution does not change wine files, as you can read
> > with the attached file, it's only a modification inside binfmt-support
> 
> I didn't say it changes wine files.
> 
> Ok. Red Hat uses sysv files currently to make sure wine is started when a 
> Windows binary is run. How would you add your wrapper to binfmt_misc ? As 
> a sysv-script ? Would your script undo what the wine-package does ? Make 
> sure it does work after an upgrade of a wine package ? If you have 
> multiple entries, it's undetermined what exactly happens afaik (I've seen 
> strange things here, while testing)
> 

One note, this script/program is not mine.

I don't know how RedHat solve the "problem" I was just pointing the best
solution (for me). Perhaps you can just ask the RedHat's maintainer if
he/she will accept a patch before supposing that it will not work ever
with RedHat/Mandrake, etc...

> 
> > > "It works" doesn't necessarily make it the best solution. A shell wrapper 
> > > works too.
> > 
> > It works for all .net executables and the user does not need to know
> > that she needs a wrapper to execute a mono program.
> 
> That's not why I said that. The user doesn't know it's starting a 
> shell-wrapper either, so it's transparant to the user and works on _all_ 
> systems, not only those that have shipped the binary wrapper.
> 
> BTW I made that comment because "a shell wrapper works too" but is 
> clearly not a prefered solution either. It would be a temporary solution 
> that works everywhere.
> 

True

> 
> > I think it's the best option :-P
> 
> I think a binfmt_exe kernel module would be the best option. Transparant, 
> can't be undone by binfmt_misc, and works just the same way as other files 
> are made to work that can't take advantage of binfmt_misc.

If you look at the kernel development you will see that binfmt was moved
from a concrete binary submodules to a general support so user-space
applications could plug any support without the need of kernel
recompilation.

> 
> Of course, it hasn't been written yet.

I doubt it will be ever written as a kernel module and if someone does
that, I doubt that it enters inside the official Linux Kernel

Btw, I don't know if *BSD or MacOS have something like binfmt, so
perhaps the "wrapper" you are talking is a better global solution... 

Cheers.

> 
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