[Gtk-sharp-list] Gtk libraries

[Doug Blank]

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Andrew York <andy at brdstudio.net> wrote:
> Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that the Gtk interface is a
> focus of Mono/Monodevelop anymore. They make most if not all of their money
> from iPad and Android based development so there is not a lot of motivation
> to make these changes even if they are helpful. Also are not the Mono dev
> leaders planning on switching to XWT in the next year or so. I'm not sure
> how much focus will be on Gtk in the future, but again I may be wrong.

It appears that Gtk will still be one of the underlying engines on all
platforms; see the README.markdown here:
https://github.com/mono/xwt

So, all of these issues are just as important.

But this is an interesting point and I'd like to read about:

* how people are planning transitions?
* what are the implications of these changes?
* what we can do to get ready?
* what is the proposed timeline?

Thanks for the info,

-Doug

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> On 10/12/2012 7:12 AM, Doug Blank wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Elmar Haneke <elmar at haneke.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This is useful information! Where did you get your binaries? What
>>>> versions are you using? Are they pre-built somewhere? I really just
>>>> need the Mac and Windows fixes for the above issues.
>>>
>>> I'm using the binaries from www.gtk.org.
>>>
>>>> The only binaries available on the site mentioned above are 2.24.
>>>
>>> There are several binaries available once you have a look at the
>>> FTP-Server linked from the summary page:
>>> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/gtk+/
>>>
>>> Perhaps the 2.22 binary does help.
>>
>> Thank you, thank you! Mono/MonoDevelop should come with these, but if
>> not, *every* system that deploys Gtk on Windows should use these
>> binaries. It is a shame that hard work has gone into fixing these
>> bugs, but they haven't made their way into all of the places that they
>> should.
>>
>> I copied the binaries from:
>>
>> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/gtk+/2.22/gtk+_2.22.1-1_win32.zip
>>
>> into my deployed mono\bin directory, and that appears to work with all
>> testing so far. (If anyone knows of a potential incompatibility please
>> let us know.)
>>
>> The most important fix for us was that we can now use the clipboard to
>> copy text out of our application.
>>
>> -Doug
>>
>> PS - not sure where these suggestions should go, but:
>>
>> * Gtk download page should not have an incompatible 2.24 as the default.
>> * There should be a clear delineation between <= 2.22 and >= 2.24.
>> Mixing these together is a bad idea.
>> * Mono/MonoDevelop should work to get the latest Gtk bug fixes into the
>> mix
>> * Else, this should be documented on the Mono/GtkSharp/MonoDevelop pages
>>
>> We try to be good citizens of using open source, so if there is
>> something more that we can do, please let me know.
>>
>> -Doug
>>
>>>> Thanks for this information... it seems that it is critical to know
>>>> these details to deploy Gtk-sharp.
>>>
>>> I foung the change that CellRendererCombo does no longer return an
>>> ComboBoxEntry on StartEdit. In 2.24 ther is an new Combo-Widget,
>>> presumably that widget is returned
>>>
>>>> Could someone make a gtk-2.24 addon for MD? Is it possible?
>>>
>>> There is no Gtk-sharp containing the extensions made in 2.24. I would
>>> assume that the working on Gtk3-support does not permit the Gtk-sharp
>>> developers to adopt to 2.24. If really needed you have to build it on
>>> your own.
>>>
>>> Elmar
>>>
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