[Glade-users] [glade-users] Glade 3.10.0 is running a bit slow

Micah Carrick micah at quixotix.com
Wed Dec 21 11:39:13 EST 2011 

I should actually point out that turning off the default GNOME 3 doesn't
"fix" the issue, it just makes the lag less significant. Sounds like what
you experienced Tristan--about half a second.

Also, I posted my last message with the wrong email, not sure if it went
through. It's shown below:

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Micah Carrick <micah at greentackle.com>wrote:

> Ding ding ding ding!
>
> I'm using GNOME 3 on Fedora 16 with the GNOME 3 default theme
> Adwaita. When I switch the GTK+ theme to Raleigh using Gnome Tweak Tool the
> problem is goes away. I'm not up to speed on how themes work in gtk+ 3 but
> I believe Raleigh does not use a theme engine.
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Tristan Van Berkom <
> tristan.van.berkom at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks !
>>
>> I loaded up the file you sent and it appears that most of the time can
>> be tracked
>> down to:
>>  a.) Glade handling events, which results in showing a hidden editor
>> page in the
>>       GladeEditor widget...
>>  b.) When looking at the callees of glade_widget_event() one notes that
>>        most of the time spent in there is spent in
>> gtk_css_provider_get_style()
>>
>> Possibly the problem is around resolving things that should probably
>> already
>> have been cached the first time around (i.e., how come we spend time
>> searching
>> and matching css styles for the widgets in the editor if they've been
>> created
>> at least once ?)
>>
>> One thing I have never tried personally, is a GTK+ 3 installation in /usr
>> and
>> a theme installed, is this why I am not getting such bad performance
>> issues ?
>
>
>> Is your test case built into /usr  ? maybe that doesnt matter... do you
>> get
>> the ugly default native GTK+ theme or are you picking up some kind of
>> elaborate and beautiful theme while running Glade ?
>>
>> If so, can you try running Glade in a naked environment, with no fancy
>> css applied and report back if the problem persists ? (or if it's less
>> bad ?)
>
>
>> Thanks alot for your help, I'm trying a GTK+ master build now to see
>> if this is a possible regression... I havent been paying attention to
>> GTK+ releases lately... maybe everyone is running something more
>> recent than 3.3.3.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>          -Tristan
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Micah Carrick <micah at quixotix.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hey, I'm going to attach my callgrind output in case one of y'all know
>> what
>> > you are doing better than I do. I started glade with`
>> --instr-atstart=no`,
>> > added a button and a label to the window, and then turned it on with
>> > `callgrind_control -i on`. I then selected a different widget and
>> turned it
>> > off with `callgrind_control -i off`.
>> >
>> > I don't really know what I'm looking for the KCacheGrind just yet and I
>> > don't have any more time to dig around today, but all these graphs ans
>> such
>> > look pretty awesome.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Micah Carrick <micah at quixotix.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I've got 4GB RAM and a dual core AMD64... plenty fast. I have a lag of
>> 1.5
>> >> - 2 seconds based on the very accurate and scientific "one
>> mississippi, two
>> >> mississippi..." approach. ;)
>> >>
>> >> I'll see if I can tinker with valgrind sometime in the next week or so
>> if
>> >> I have time.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Tristan Van Berkom
>> >> <tristan.van.berkom at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 4:10 AM, Matej Nanut <matejnanut at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > I've asked the same question here about a month (?) ago, and there
>> was
>> >>> > no
>> >>> > definite answer,
>> >>>
>> >>> I just tried building a few versions here, and I have pretty much the
>> >>> same lag
>> >>> from GTK+ 3.0.9 to GTK+ 3.3.3, I havent tried any versions before
>> 3.0.9
>> >>> or
>> >>> after 3.3.3.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have a very old laptop here (about 5yrs old and chugging along,
>> every
>> >>> second time I power her up she decides to find the operating system...
>> >>> and
>> >>> grub happily shows up).
>> >>>
>> >>> Running 64bit linux here, with this processor:
>> >>>   AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-58
>> >>>
>> >>> Its dual core, each of them dishing out about 800Mhz.
>> >>>
>> >>> Admittedly selecting a new widget is annoyingly slow,
>> >>> probably around half a second or a bit more, just enough
>> >>> to make you feel annoyed, definitely nowhere close to
>> >>> a 2 second lag.
>> >>>
>> >>> Currently I'm really busy with other things and can't be
>> >>> bothered... so I'm looking to you guys to profile it and find
>> >>> out where is the bottle neck, where are we spending the
>> >>> majority of this time ?
>> >>>
>> >>> In size requests ? is it a silly Glade bug ?
>> >>>
>> >>> I recommend valgrind with the cachegrind tool, output
>> >>> is quite pretty when viewed with kcachegrind.
>> >>>
>> >>> And it doesnt require hacking your kernel like other modern
>> >>> profilers do...
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>>              -Tristan
>> >>>
>> >>> > apart from it probably being GTK's and not Glade's fault.
>> >>> > I just opted to actually coding my interfaces until this gets
>> >>> > corrected.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Sorry I couldn't be of much help,
>> >>> > Matej
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 20 December 2011 20:03, Micah Carrick <micah at quixotix.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I've seen a few other people mentioning this, but, I can't find any
>> >>> >> bugs
>> >>> >> or information. What I'm seeing is that when you select from one
>> >>> >> widget to
>> >>> >> another (either in the editor or the inspector) the UI blocks for
>> >>> >> about 2
>> >>> >> full seconds. This only happens when selecting a widget of a
>> different
>> >>> >> type
>> >>> >> than the one currently selected (eg. selecting a GtkButton and then
>> >>> >> another
>> >>> >> GtkButton is fast, but then selecting a GtkEntry is slow).
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Any insights?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
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