[Glade-users] An oft asked question --- I'm sure

[Huston, Bob]

I can see the benefit of the gtk method basically laying it all out in
a grid/table.
I have been using this for about 2 years now, prior to that I came from
a MS world
using Visual Studio to layout the controls for C++ programs. In my
opinion, 
VisualStudio by FAR is easier to use, the draw back is its microsoft
only.

 

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[mailto:glade-users-bounces at lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Matthew
Yaconis
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:59 PM
To: Victor Rafael Rivarola Soerensen (FANATICO por Cristo); Jim
Bodkikns (Dakotacom)
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Subject: Re: [Glade-users] An oft asked question --- I'm sure

Having come from an xforms background with having to position widgets
by 
giving x and y coordinates or just dropping them on the page, when I
first 
started with GTK+ I got a little frustrated as well.  However, once you
"get 
it" and figure out how to reference everything and lay out your GUI, it
is 
(IMHO) far superior to anything else I've ever worked with.

It is really easy for me (with GTK) to provide GUIs that are flexible
and 
look good regardless of what operating system they are run on, what 
resolution the screen is running, and what the current theme is.

We all have our personal preferences and I understand where you are
coming 
from but I suggest you give it a chance.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Victor Rafael Rivarola Soerensen (FANATICO y LOCO por Cristo)" 
<vrrivaro at gmail.com>
To: "Jim Bodkikns (Dakotacom)" <JimBodkins at yahoo.com>
Cc: <glade-users at lists.ximian.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Glade-users] An oft asked question --- I'm sure


2006/1/11, Jim Bodkikns (Dakotacom) <JimBodkins at yahoo.com>:
> :)
>
> Will glade ever feature free form widget (control) placement. (I dont
care
> much for the layout boxes - forget their name).

HBoxes, VBoxes, and Tables.

> I think glade is the only
> tool (contemporary) that still does this. (I'm trying to use anjuta -
but
> may dump C/C++ entirely in favor of tools like Boa and Python or VTcl
and
> Tcl/Tk).

Glade, is not responsible for it. Gtk is. Gtk is the only toolkit that
arranges its aspects in such a sencible way *ever*. If it wasn't for
Gtk, you would be strong armed to use the stone aged pixel wise
placement of all the widgets. Can you imagine that? We are all glad
for Gtk thanks to Gtk's advanced placement scheme, You no longer have
to worry about having to resize your own widgets all the time, Gtk
does it on its own.

>I have decades of experience with C/C++, but find using glade
> tedious. (Non-trivial legacy apps that have complex UI's)

Well, Gtk does it the Right Way(TM).

> Thanks

If you still have a retrograd thinking and insist on suffering though
the pain yourself, Gtk (at least Gtk#) does allows this to be done
with either the Gtk.Fixed or Gtk.Layout namespaces. I have no idea how
they work, or if they can be ported to other Gtk's or if they can be
used by Glade, however your best shot is provably wxWidgets and not
Gtk.

> Jim
> P.S
> I'm hoping I just missed something. :)
>
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