[Glade-users] Glade2 and gnomeui
Tyson Lloyd Thwaites
tysonlt@webmedia.com.au
Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:51:50 +0930
As a side note, I still couldn't get the gnome palette to work on my RedHat
9 box.
I installed the latest slackware last night, and glade-2 works like a charm.
Interesting....
Tyson Lloyd Thwaites
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John (J5) Palmieri" <johnp@martianrock.com>
To: "Tyson Lloyd Thwaites" <tysonlt@webmedia.com.au>
Cc: <glade-users@lists.ximian.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Glade-users] Glade2 and gnomeui
> On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 22:26, Tyson Lloyd Thwaites wrote:
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Thank you, you have been more than useful. I had a feeling the gnome
palette
> > was only a line away!
> >
> > re the X/Y, all us gui developers know they are eveil, but....sheesh,
> > sometimes I still like to use it. I guess I am still learning the GTK
> > layouts as opposed to Java, and sometimes I just cave in and use the
> > absolute layout. Sigh...
> I'm not going to debate this :-) I have wanted to use X, Y layouts from
> the beginning. When I used to program in Java and hated how there was
> no X, Y back in the day (I had to used Borland's own layout in JBuilder
> 1.0 and that was recomended only for prototyping). All I can say is
> that I have heard too many good arguments for why not to use X, Y
> layouts and Gtk's layouts are dead simple compaired to Java. If you
> ever get the chance to read Havoc Pennington's thoughts on the subject,
> do it. He just makes sense.
>
> > Re the druid, the only problem I have is being forced into looking like
> > gnome. Sometimes I do not want those cute arrows and crosses on my
buttons.
> This is themable.
>
> > I do not like the little strip down the side.
> You can change the color.
> > I want the icon on the left,
> What can I tell you? You have the source. Inherit from the Druid or
> copy and paste it into something that fits your needs.
>
> > etc etc. Picky perhaps but that's how it is. Also, I wonder about the
> > performance of stuff that has been linked with gnome libraries; I may
> > speaking out of ignorance here
> Gnome is fast for me. If it is slow for you then perhaps it is because of
> your video card or, from what I gather, the fact that you may be using
> depricated functionality in your port to 2.0. I have also heard people
> find that RedHat feels a bit sluggish compaired to some other distros
> for some reason, but that could all be FUD.
>
> Linking to Gnome does incure some overhead that say linking to Xlib
> would not, but in return you get a better, more consistent interface,
> unicode throughout, antialiasing, and baseline A11y for free. If you
> are a Java developer you might want to check out ATK from IBM or
> Java-GTK/Java-Gnome. You can use gcj (the Gnu Compiler for Java) to get
> native code Gtk+ apps from Java.
>
> --
> J5
>
>