I am being forced by my inbred NT-based university to program in java / swing. Strangely enough, I happen to love the glade UI-design interface. Are there any crufty hacks around that'll turn a .glade file into something resembling java/swing (or awt)? --trent -- The best answer when anybody asks you if you're any good with explosives is to hold up two open hands and simply say "Ten". -- Anthony DeBoer