[Glade-devel] [Glade-users] Making property editor as big as posible!

[Tristan Van Berkom]

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Igor Chetverovod <chetverovod at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Tristan,
> About a bit another thing:)
>
> I think it  would be great  if property editor could have possibility
> to add new properties to the widget and GObject  functions
> g_object_set_data () / g_object_get_data () could be used for access
> to those properties.
>

Yes, we've discussed that more than once before, the possibility of
setting qdata on a GObject.

I'm not completely convinced that using qdata is the best programming
paradigm, but in any case it requires some GtkBuilder features before
we can really discuss adding such a thing to Glade.

Any qdata parsing from GtkBuilder files should also be typed
(probably only allowing for fundamental types to be parsable).

I.e. parsing the value "GtkButton" as a "string" type would make
a string "GtkButton" be allocated and tied to the GObject's
life cycle, parsing it as a "GType" would have different results.

Again, I think there are other directions to take to make Glade
and GtkBuilder more usable, without encouraging programmers
to hack with GObject qdata.

Cheers,
       -Tristan

> Igor
>
> 2013/3/9, Tristan Van Berkom <tristan.van.berkom at gmail.com>:
>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Johannes Schmid <jhs at jsschmid.de> wrote:
>>> Hi Juan!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> https://blogs.gnome.org/xjuan/files/2013/03/glade_new_layout.png
>>>
>>> Overall it looks better to me (I don't really know what the clean button
>>> is for, maybe we can just remove it from such a prominent place). I
>>> would consider to replace the switch buttons with a toggle button that
>>> doesn't have "on/off" but just the name of the property to save more
>>> space.
>>>
>>> I still favor some kind of GtkTreeView thing like done in Visual Basic
>>> for example but it seems the current GtkTreeView is too limited for that
>>> approach.
>>
>> Hi,
>>   Just reiterating what I've said many times before,
>> the reason I don't want to go in the direction of GtkTreeView, is
>> that it treats widget properties like rows of data, this approach
>> limits our capability of providing more user friendly editors.
>>
>> I would rather go in a direction where property editors see
>> more per-widget type customization (i.e. a GtkLabel editor
>> is different than a GtkButton editor), this let's us organize
>> the view in a more human friendly way.
>>
>> I know, most of Glade's property editors don't leverage
>> the custom editor approach enough yet to justify this
>> approach (most of Glade's editors still look like a dumb
>> list of properties), but I think it's the right direction to
>> take in general, so I don't want to frame us into a corner
>> where editor customization becomes impossible.
>>
>> Perhaps with the new dogfooding that we've been
>> doing this will be more easily achieved (i.e. Glades
>> main UI is made with Glade, hopefully the individual
>> property editors soon can also be made with Glade).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>            -Tristan
>>
>> PS: For a basic example of what I ultimately want,
>> I know it sucks to refer to OSX tooling /again/ but
>> here's a screen shot from Interface Builder:
>>
>> http://disanji.net/iOS_Doc/referencelibrary/GettingStarted/URL_Tools_for_iPhone_OS_Development/Art/interface_builder.jpg
>>
>> Notice the property editor on the right hand side,
>> the amount of properties exposed to the user are
>> limited to configuring "things that matter", and
>> there is some interesting grouping of properties
>> going on... this kind of custom layouting is what
>> I really want to see more of in Glade, while the
>> core allows for this customization, it just hasn't
>> been leveraged enough yet to really look great.
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Johannes
>>>
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